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My favorite critical sentence in the past random bit of time:

"Naturally, the two poets discussed their differences in the measured tones typically assumed by great artists, which is to say, Quevedo wrote a sonnet making fun of Góngora's nose."

-- David Orr, in "Ways of Saying," a review in the December 11, 2011, New York Times, of Edith Grosman's translation of The Solitudes, by Luis de Góngora

Date: 2012-01-05 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tagwn.livejournal.com
good grief!

Date: 2012-01-06 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kate-schaefer.livejournal.com
Literary quarrels: almost as low stakes as academic ones, on the one hand, but as serious as anything in life, since they're about art, after all.

Date: 2012-01-06 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
Excellent! Now I'd like to see that sonnet.

Date: 2012-01-06 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kate-schaefer.livejournal.com
Me, too. I haven't looked it up yet.

Date: 2012-01-06 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
By the way, what does Orr think of Grosman's translation?

Date: 2012-01-06 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kate-schaefer.livejournal.com
Oh, the content of the review? He liked it, overall.

Date: 2012-01-06 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alecaustin.livejournal.com
Quevedo vs. Gongora is a lovely rivalry. Eventually Quevedo bought a house Gongora was rooming in just to be able to expel him into the street, IIRC.

Date: 2012-01-06 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kate-schaefer.livejournal.com
Now, that's petty, but on a grand scale.

Date: 2012-01-06 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apostle-of-eris.livejournal.com
Thank you for sharing.

Date: 2012-01-06 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kate-schaefer.livejournal.com
You're welcome. I read the New York Times Book Review a month after it comes out so you won't have to...

Date: 2012-01-06 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ron-drummond.livejournal.com
Here's a link to the review:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/11/books/review/the-solitudes-by-luis-de-gongora-book-review.html

I picked up a copy of this book in September when Borders was going out of business -- 60% off, which I couldn't resist. Have always been curious about it, as de Góngora's epic was the point of departure for John Crowley in writing the Ægypt Cycle.

Also, I just read through the Joanna Russ tribute section of the new Chunga, and really liked your contribution. Thanks too for helping me with mine.

Date: 2012-01-06 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kate-schaefer.livejournal.com
Thanks! I haven't opened the envelope yet; I expect I'll read the zine this weekend.

What did you think of the Solitudes? Or is it still in your to-be-read stack?

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